Rhys Montrose (2024)

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Rhys Monstrose Joe's split personality

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No. We could figure this out, 𝐘𝐎𝐔 and me. We can do anything together. I'm alive for 𝐘𝐎𝐔. Just why can't 𝐘𝐎𝐔 see that? Why can't 𝐘𝐎𝐔 see me the way I see 𝐘𝐎𝐔? I love 𝐘𝐎𝐔!

―Rhys to Joe Goldberg.

Rhys Montrose is a main character and an antagonist in the fourth season of Netflix's You, serving as the main antagonist. He is portrayed by Ed Speleers. Although only in fourth season did Rhys appear as Joe's dual personality, taking the physical form of Rhys Montrose, he was always present as the personification of Joe's dark side throughout the other seasons.

Contents

  • 1 Biography
    • 1.1 Backstory
    • 1.2 Season 1
    • 1.3 Season 3
    • 1.4 Season 4
  • 2 Murders Committed
  • 3 Quotes
    • 3.1 Joe's mind
    • 3.2 Real Rhys
  • 4 Relationships
    • 4.1 Romances
    • 4.2 Allies
    • 4.3 Enemies
  • 5 Appearances
    • 5.1 Season 4
  • 6 Gallery
  • 7 Trivia

Biography[]

Rhys is a British author and London Mayoral candidate who grew up in poverty with his unstable single mother before later discovering he was the son of a duke, attending Oxford University and rising to success with his well-received autobiography. He initially bonds with Joe because they both have difficult childhoods, and they seem to find common ground within the elite social circle where they both feel out of place. (The underlined text is all in Joe's Imagination)

Backstory[]

Rhys Montrose born in London, United Kingdom, son of a powerful duke and an unnamed mother, Rhys was born on August 4th, 1988 and discovered his paternity years after his birth.

Season 1[]

I think there's two of 𝐘𝐎𝐔. One that's been hurt in the past, who betrayed. Hopeless. But the other one has faith. Despite, with evidence to contrary.

During his consultation with Dr. Nicky, Joe, as Paul Brown, asks how his diagnosis turned out, Dr. Nicky responds that inside Joe there would be two people (Joe and Rhys).

Season 3[]

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Rhys appears exactly as he would appear in season four, but in Joe's physical form. Rhys embodies Joe's dark side, as shown when he encourages Joe to frame Matthew for Natalie's murder. In the end, Joe denies what Rhys says and tries to advise Matthew to talk to the press so that everyone doesn't suspect that Matthew murdered Natalie, and thus be able to protect Theo, which Matthew tries to do. Rhys has never been seen again since then, as Joe was possibly in deep denial of his dark side, i.e. Rhys.

Season 4[]

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Joe first "meets" Rhys when Malcolm insists he attends a London hotspot for the elite and introduces him to their inner circle. They briefly discuss his book and relate to the shared experience of a poor childhood and poverty. Rhys excuses himself, stating he has a television appearance in Berlin the following morning. This entire interaction however was completely in Joe's head meaning it never actually happened.

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That night he murdered Malcolm and intended to frame Joe, who was too intoxicated to remember what had happened. He expected that when Joe found Malcolm's body on his kitchen table, he would easily go down for the crime. Instead, he is intrigued when Joe covers it up and disposes of the body. He begins texting Joe anonymously, taunting him and questioning his true identity, while also interacting with him in person at events of the inner circle. Typically, they have conversations in which they seem to carry on their initial bond and Joe lets his guard down with him repeatedly. He digs into Joe's past and discovers who he is, which only intrigues him further and gives him more to taunt Joe with through the text message app. He threatens to implicate Joe in the murders further if he doesn't play along and be honest about himself. By the end of part 1, Rhys has secretly followed the group to Phoebe's remote county estate where they have retreated. After killing Gemma and observing as Joe and Kate frantically try to hide the body and avoid suspicion, he finally intervenes once Roald has implicated Joe as the murderer to others in the group and begun to enthusiastically hunt him through the forest. Rhys captures both Joe and Roald, and Joe wakes up chained up in the secret basem*nt of the estate. He tells Joe that he decided they should dispose of Roald, and following Joe’s previous successful strategy, pin the other murders on him. He tells Joe to kill Roald before he returns but refuses to unchain him. When he comes back to find Joe hadn't killed him and was trying to escape, he was disappointed and set fire to the basem*nt, leaving the two men chained to the wall.

"If you're clever enough to get yourself free, I’ll see you in London." He tells him, before disappearing.

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Joe kidnaps, tortures, and murders the real Rhys in a vain attempt to find Marienne's location, prompting the fake Rhys to reveal himself and warn Joe that he had not fed Marienne in days. Joe manages to find Marienne in time, and despite Rhys demanding that he kill her, he plans to free her as soon as he finds a way to escape London before the police can arrest him. Joe texts Marienne's friend Beatrice and learns that Marienne lost custody of her daughter Juliette, which seemingly drives Marienne to commit suicide by overdosing on oxycodone pills. At her written request, Joe leaves Marienne's body on a bench. To "protect" Kate from her father's manipulations, Joe and Rhys murder Lockwood and frame it on his bodyguard.

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Guilt-ridden by his murders and Marienne's suicide, Joe heads to a bridge to commit suicide. Rhys begs him to back down, but Joe "throws" him off the bridge before jumping off himself. Unfortunately for everyone, Joe survives his suicide attempt. He tells Kate about the murders of Love and Marienne's ex-boyfriend Ryan Goodwin, and Kate uses his connections to help cover up the murders, allowing Joe to return to New York and live by his true identity. Meanwhile, he discovers that a girl named Nadia has been investigating him, and he frames her for the real Rhys Montrose's murder. While Rhys never speaks to Joe after the bridge scene, Joe imagines his reflection in the window and becomes significantly more ruthless and cruel, so whether the Rhys personality has ceased to exist or merged with Joe's is unclear.

Murders Committed[]

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Malcolm HardingStabbed in the chest.YOU
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Simon SooStabbed in the chest.YOU
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Gemma Graham-GreeneThroat slashed.YOU

Quotes[]

Joe's mind[]

  • "I'm not Joe."
  • "Pleasure to meet you, brother in arms."
  • "They're dancing while the world burns and barely notice its even burning. Why would they? Their weathers just right."
  • "I get a sense about you, all jokes aside, my guess is that you've had a truly hellish life. The kind not everyone survives. Am I close? So you're fairly deeply damaged, therefore you're capable of doing real damage."
  • "I think yes. As long as they can face themselves completely. To never run from themselves. Face it all no matter what. Easy, right?"
  • "I think it would be hypocritical of me to disavow old friends simply for being who they are. But really, I think the longer that you know somebody, the more cursed you are to see them as human."
  • "We all wear different masks, depending. And of course, parts of us we can't bear to show anyone."
  • "I don't mind getting into all that. I'd have questions too. It's just, I honestly wasn’t prepared for this type of face to face yet. But then you got yourself into a bind and it became very clear that if I didn't intervene, you were gonna get yourself killed."
  • "You're welcome. My pleasure."
  • "Don't be coy. I've studied you, Joe. The way you’ve been able to escape scrutiny… truly you've been inspiring me so much along the way in my little project. And in light of what's worked so well for you in times past, it seems my best option that doesn't rely on luck, involves framing a dead person so they can't protest their innocence."
  • "You kill him, and I’ll take care of the other touches that will make the story sing. I’ve got the note written."
  • "No one will be surprised Roald is a killer. He’s a neo fascist with a knife collection."
  • "You lied. To me. You're in denial about yourself. It's a shame. You're not the man I hoped you were. I did have a plan A. To frame you for Malcolm's murder. I could go back to that. I don’t want to, but sometimes things don't work out with the person the way you dream."
  • "If you're clever enough to get yourself free, I’ll see you in London and we can revisit this."

Real Rhys[]

  • "Sorry do I know you?"
  • "I don't know what the f*ck you're talking about."

Relationships[]

Romances[]

Allies[]

Enemies[]

Appearances[]

Season 4[]

Gallery[]

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Rhys and his father

Rhys in one of his public speeches

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Rhys talking to Joe

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Rhys and Joe

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Rhys along with confused Joe

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Joe with Rhys

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Rhys provoking Joe to kill Marienne

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Joe along with Rhys framing Hugo McNamara for Tom Lockwood's death

Trivia[]

  • Due to season 4 being an original creation from Netflix, Rhys is an original character created for the show, since he makes no appearances in the books. Although since the evil version of Rhys was just a split personality of Joe Goldberg, he could have exist, if his killings were involved violently in the books.
  • Giving the ending of season 4, showed Joe’s reflection of Rhys, but it’s unknown if he is still alive, while the fifth and final season is coming, whether Rhys would appear remains unknown.
  • Although only in fourth season did Rhys appear as Joe's dual personality, he was always present as the personification of Joe's dark side throughout the other seasons.
  • The Rhys personality is more openly perverted than Joe usually is. When Kate is visibly drunk at and after Phoebe's party, Rhys repeatedly encourages Joe to have sex with her, to which he declines.
  • The Rhys personality may have appeared in the third season, around episode 3, although it was a double of Joe.
  • Rhys is ironically similar to Tyler Durden, from Fight Club, as he is the spilt personality of the protagonist, The Narrator, as an evil personality, like Rhys.
    • Although Rhys was a real person, his split personality took over in the form of Joe. For Fight Club, Tyler doesn’t exist, with no person.
Rhys Montrose (22) Characters


Main Characters
Joe Goldberg |Love Quinn |Rhys Montrose

Season 1 Characters
Allison Mott |Annika Attwater |Anya Beck |Barry Salinger |Benji Ashby |Blythe |Candace Stone |Claudia Cohen |Clyde Beck |Edward Beck |Elijah Thornton |Ethan Russell |Guinevere Beck |Ivan Mooney |Jimmy Stone |Karen Minty |Lynn Lieser |Maddie Johnson |Nancy Whitesell |Nicky Reynolds |Nico |Paco |Paul Leahy |Peach Salinger |Raj |Roger Stevens |Ron Williams |Ross Jones |Whitesell Siblings

Season 2 Characters
Calvin |Candace Stone |David Fincher |Delilah Alves |Dottie Quinn |Ellie Alves |Forty Quinn |Gabe Miranda |Gigi |Henderson |James Kennedy |Jasper Krenn |Lucy Sprecher |Milo Warrington |Natalie Engler |Nicky Reynolds |Raphael Goldberg |Ray Quinn |Sandy Librelato |Sofia |Sunrise Cummings |Will Bettelheim

Season 3 Characters
Andrew |Brandon |Cary Conrad |Chandra |Dante Ferguson |Dottie Quinn |Fiona |Gil Brigham |Harriet Goodwin |Henry Goldberg |Jackson |Jakey Librelato |Juliette Goodwin |Kiki |Lansing |Marienne Bellamy |Matthew Engler |Natalie Engler |Ryan Goodwin |Sandy Librelato |Sherry Conrad |Theo Engler |Travis |Wes

Season 4 Characters
Adam Pratt |Beatrice |Blessing Bosede |Blue |Connie |Dawn Brown |Duke of Kingston-upon-Hull |Edward Owen |Elliot Tannenberg |Emma |Gemma Graham-Greene |Greta Galvin |Hugo McNamara |Jace Pratt |Juliette Goodwin |Kate Galvin |Malcolm Harding |Marienne Bellamy |Nadia Farran |Niko Leandros |Phoebe Borehall-Blaxworth |Roald Walker-Burton |Simon Soo |Sophie Soo |Tom Lockwood |Vic Bailey

Season 5 Characters
Bronte |Henry Goldberg |Kate Galvin |Maddie Lockwood |Marienne Bellamy |Raegan Lockwood |Teddy Lockwood

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FAQs

Is Joe actually Rhys? ›

Apologies to everyone (including Joe), who was just getting used to knowing Rhys as the Eat the Rich Killer. Because… he's actually a figment of Joe's increasingly splintered mind.

Why did Joe stalk Rhys? ›

Why does Joe get so obsessed with Rhys? Like Lady Phoebe's (Tilly Keeper) stalker in Episode 6, Joe suffers from erotomania, which is when a person fixates on a celebrity and believes they share a deep relationship, even though they've likely never met.

Why does Rhys not remember Joe? ›

Although Rhys is actually a real person in the You-niverse, he's never met Joe. The Rhys Joe's been talking to this entire time is a hallucination, or more accurately, a manifestation of Joe's murderous side.

Why did Joe Goldberg say I'm not Joe? ›

When his split personality is able to fully manifest and break off from Joe's main personality, his first words to Marienne are "I'm not Joe." Joe's dark alter ego then orchestrates and commits a series of murders in an effort to convince Joe to finally accept his inner darkness completely.

Is Rhys a hallucination for Joe? ›

As many fans had already theorised, Joe's interactions with Rhys in You season 4 are all hallucinations. Rhys did exist but he never knew Joe personally. On top of that, Joe is the Eat the Rich killer. He simply blacked out any memory of his murders and imagined that Rhys was behind them instead.

Is Rhys a figment of Joe's imagination? ›

As it turns out, the Rhys we've seen throughout the first half of season 4 has, for the most part, been a figment of Joe's imagination. The real Rhys has no idea who Joe is, having only met him in passing.

Was Rhys the one texting Joe? ›

At the end of the midseason finale, we also discover that Rhys (Speleers) is the one who has been texting, stalking and blackmailing Joe, and killing the others.

What episode does Joe find out Rhys is the killer? ›

In You season 4, episode 5, Rhys Montrose (Ed Speelers), an aspiring mayoral candidate and part of London's rich clique, finally reveals himself to Joe as the Eat the Rich killer.

What mental illness does Joe Goldberg have? ›

Joe has criteria that correspond to obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, which is that he is often anxious about himself and the people he loves, so he cannot control his emotions to commit sad*stic actions to kill people who he considers to interfere with the relationship between Joe and Beck.

Is Rhys Joe's alter ego? ›

Rhys becomes Joe's alter-ego and exists in this form only after the latter chokes the life out of the original model. YOU Season 4 part two concludes with Joe tying up a series of loose ends.

Did Rhys or Joe kidnap Marienne? ›

With the help of Hallucination Rhys, Joe pieces together what he actually did to Marienne: put a sedative in her coffee when she was about to get on the train, then kidnap her.

How many people has Joe Goldberg killed? ›

All 18 Of Joe Goldberg's Murders From "You" Ranked From Awful To Absolutely Horrifying.

Why was Joe obsessed with Rhys? ›

But during the second part, it was revealed that while Rhys is a real person in Kate's life, the killer version of the character was a figment of Joe's imagination and Joe, who became obsessed with Rhys after reading his autobiography, was the real Eat the Rich Killer.

What was Joe Goldberg's famous line? ›

A single line — "Are you flirting with me?" — has become synonymous with the killer, and many memes about Joe have spawned from it.

Why doesn't Peach like Joe? ›

Peach looks down at Joe as a bookstore clerk for his inability to provide. Though this is simply a cover for the fact that she herself has her own dark obsession with Beck and wants her for herself. Peach is manipulative, emotionally toxic and often parasitic.

Is Rhys the one texting Joe? ›

At the end of the midseason finale, we also discover that Rhys (Speleers) is the one who has been texting, stalking and blackmailing Joe, and killing the others.

Is Rhys the author in You? ›

As the season played out, the mystery unfolded, and in the end, Joe discovered that the killer was none other than author (and politician) Rhys (Ed Speleers). For new cast member Speleers, it was a chance to join a massively popular show in a massive way.

Is Rhys in You the killer? ›

After a string of murders among London's elite dubbed the "Eat the Rich" killings, Joe discovers it was Rhys who committed the murders out of his apparent resentment towards the rich.

Is Rhys Joe's alter ego in You? ›

Rhys becomes Joe's alter-ego and exists in this form only after the latter chokes the life out of the original model. YOU Season 4 part two concludes with Joe tying up a series of loose ends.

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