'Pretty Little Liars' boss dishes on season 5 finale, Charles (if that's his name) (2024)

On last night's season 5 finale of Pretty Little Liars, the identity of Big "A" was revealed to be someone named Charles. According to some old home videos that Spencer found, it certainly seems that Charles is yet another son of Mrs. DiLaurentis, and therefore a brother to Ali and Jason—not to mention a potential half-brother to Spencer. Also revealed in the hour: Mona is alive and well. That is if you consider being trapped in a real-life dollhouse to be "well."

Following the finale, we took our burning questions to executive producer Oliver Goldstick, who told us a little about Charles' personality—and what comes after "A."

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Can you say if Charles is a twin, or is he just related to the DiLaurentis family?

OLIVER GOLDSTICK: I would just say the latter is what's most important right now.

Is this a character we've seen before?

Yes, we've seen this person before. Indeed we have.

I'm curious about Charles' personality. Give me three words to describe him.

First of all, don't settle that it's definitely the name Charles, because an anagram is an anagram. We definitely have gotten a big clue here. But just know that this person is fiercely intelligent. I would say "devious," and the word "wrathful." That's an SAT word for you. I didn't say "vituperative," I said "wrathful." I could have said "vituperative," but I'm not going to do that.

Once we hear his story, do you think fans will empathize with Charles?

I wouldn't rule that out, because this show has been that since the beginning. Look who Alison was when we started 120 episodes ago. Would you ever have empathized with this girl on any level? I'm hoping we've done our job to make you go, "You know what? Things are not what they seem." In this town, things are not what they seem. So even with Alison, I think she's living proof on this series that you might empathize with the least likely person.

We got to see a little home video last night. Will we see Charles in flashbacks moving forward?

We're not relying so much on the flashbacks anymore. There will be some stuff coming up in season 6 that will give you a little more insight.

Another thing a lot of people are talking about is Charles' resources. He managed to build this dollhouse. What can you say about his resources? I don't know if he had a lot of time on his hands, if he had help…

[Laughs] They feel infinite, don't they? That's where I go back to fiercely intelligent and devious, because the ability to amass this kind of—I don't want to say "arsenal" because that's a terrible word, but it is an arsenal in a sense because this person's had a lot of time on their hands to figure out how to carry out such an intricate plot against all of these girls. I would say this person is very resourceful, but their intelligence is what is behind it. Their intelligence and their ability to harness what's available to them through technology.

Let's go back to those three words: fiercely intelligent, devious, and resourceful because that really is a good word for who Charles is.

I know season 6 picks up right where we left off and that the Liars will escape. So how is this experience going to affect the Liars?

It has great impact. What we've done in the season 6 summer season is condensed it so it really takes place three weeks before their graduation, so we'll deal with the fallout of the trauma.

So the entire summer season takes place over three weeks?

Yes it is, yeah. 'Til the prom, 'til graduation. We've compressed it for very specific reasons because we wanted to deal with the fallout. You'll be dealing with what happened in that dollhouse that we didn't see last night when we come back. So there will be ramifications of those three weeks that they spent in there as well.

And then the four-year time jump will occur at the end of the summer season?

Yes.

Marlene King has said that this is the beginning of the end of the "A" story, that you all are ready to answer all these questions. My question is: What comes after that?

This much trauma and this much suffering and the machinations over how many seasons doesn't go away that quickly. So we believe there's twisted—you'll see. There's some real fallout even after you may know the identity of "A." There will be fallout. It will not be over for these girls.

I know that there's another missing girl coming into the mix…

I don't want to answer too much of that, but you'll see. Is it somebody you know, is that what you're asking me? There's a familiarity, so I'm not going to say anything more than that. You won't be totally shocked by that element.

Going forward, knowing that you're going to get to deliver all of these answers, is there a specific mystery that you're most excited for people to get the answer to?

Because we're already deep into the first half of [season] 6A, it's deeply satisfying. This is a very satisfying way to unpeel this onion. The audience has scratched their head and gone, "Why did we go down this path for so long? Why do we care about Bethany Young? Why was she in Alison's grave?" It will be very satisfying when you find out.

Does this mean we'll get to know more about the Campbell family?

Yes.

How would you describe them?

Oh my God, they live in Rosewood, they're freaks! Anyone who's stayed in this town after what's gone on to these girls, now that it's become news—and all the parents know after last night, anyone who stays in Rosewood and doesn't find a passport out, they're certifiable. I would say there's something in the water, definitely. This town has so many twisted secrets, and you're going to be treated to more when we come back in season 6.

Pretty Little Liars returns for its sixth season in June.

'Pretty Little Liars' boss dishes on season 5 finale, Charles (if that's his name) (2024)

FAQs

Why was Charles DiLaurentis put in Radley? ›

She reveals that she was born as a boy named Charles DiLaurentis. When she was eight years old, she gave Alison a bath, but accidentally dropped her in the scalding water. Kenneth saved Alison, but Charles was admitted to Radley as a consequence.

Who is Spencer Hastings' real mom? ›

Mary Drake

Who is A at the end of season 5 of PLL? ›

They discover that Mona had indeed faked her death; however, she is going under the name Alison in the presence of 'A'. They attempt to leave during the "prom" 'A' forces them to create. Spencer then learns A's name: Charles, who is the oldest child of Kenneth and Jessica DiLaurentis.

Are Charlotte and CeCe the same person? ›

In the episode, Charlotte introduces herself as CeCe Drake, an old friend of Alison's and ex-girlfriend of Jason, to the main characters of the series - Aria Montgomery, Spencer Hastings, Hanna Marin and Emily Fields (who are collectively known as "the Liars.")

How is Charles DiLaurentis also CeCe Drake? ›

It's revealed that Charles DiLaurentis is, in fact, Charlotte DiLaurentis, alias CeCe Drake, and he transitioned at the age of 16. When he was little, Charles tried to stop Alison from crying as he thought a way of helping her would be a bath.

Did Ted know CeCe was his daughter? ›

Here's where it gets weird though…Ted Wilson turns out to be Charlotte's (aka Charles DiLaurentis … aka CeCe Drake) father. He only knew her as Charles, the soft spoken, sweet boy, smarter than all the others from the youth camp for troubled boys.

Who killed Mona in season 5 spoilers? ›

Let us do as Ezra would do and consult our notes. At the end of last week's episode, Ali was found guilty of Mona's murder.

Did CeCe shoot Ezra? ›

After hearing from Jenna and the town of how awful Alison was, Shana pretended to help Alison and tracked her down to New York to kill her. She shot Ezra on the rooftop and is about to kill Ali until she is stopped by Aria, who kills her. Alison reveals that CeCe was never truly Red Coat.

Who choked Ali in season 5? ›

Big A attacks Alison in her living room after she attempts to leave Rosewood. She hits Alison from behind with a Fireplace Poker and then strangles her with her own Scarf. She strangles Ali into unconsciousness before stopping and dropping her on the floor.

Are Alison and CeCe twins? ›

In "Game Over, Charles" Cece revealed herself as Charlotte DiLaurentis, Alison's adoptive sister and biological cousin, via her aunt Mary Drake.

Where did Aria go the night Charlotte was killed? ›

Aria left the hotel the night of Charlotte's murder. With Ezra. While the rest of the Liars agreed to stay in Rosewood to support Ali after Charlotte's murder, Aria rushed back to Boston for work.

Who is Spencer's twin sister? ›

Officially introduced in the series finale, Alex Drake is both the identical twin of main character Spencer Hastings and the previously anonymous identity known as "A.D." In childhood, Drake was adopted by a wealthy British family that later abandoned her, forcing Alex to bounce around foster homes and orphanages.

Why did Mona end up in Radley? ›

She and Spencer get into a fight near a cliff and Mona is accidentally pushed off. She survives, however, and is committed to the Radley Sanitarium, after being diagnosed with dissociative identity disorder.

Why did Charles DiLaurentis become A? ›

CeCe Drake reveals herself as "A" and tells her story; saying that she is transgender, was formerly known as Charles DiLaurentis, and became Charlotte DiLaurentis and later became "A" because the Liars were happy that Alison was gone.

Why was Mary Drake put in Radley? ›

The patient has random violent outbursts, lashing out and throwing objects." Mary Drake was initially institutionalized for an incident involving the death of a child who was under her care while she was babysitting. Mary was forced to stay in Radley until she was 18.

Why did Toby's mom go to Radley? ›

If there's one thing we know about Marion, it's that she was placed in Radley due to her on-going battle with depression, which had allegedly lead to her suicide. (According to the reports, Marion had apparently stolen a key and intentionally jumped out of a window at Radley.)

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